# MA of MA MA of MA is an indicator on [Vela](https://vela.luxalgo.com/chart), our next-generation charting platform, written in Pine Script®. Overlay that smooths a moving average with a second moving average, defaulting to a 20-period EMA fed into another 20-period EMA across six selectable average types. A dashboard totals each pass's nominal lag in bars, an optional lag-reduced line cancels most of it, and crossings fire turn alerts. For trend traders who want a stable baseline with its lag quantified. - Indicator in the LuxAlgo Library, by LuxAlgo, published Jun 10, 2026. - Access: free. - Concepts: [MA of MA](https://www.luxalgo.com/library/concept/ma-of-ma/) (primary) - Open on Vela: https://vela.luxalgo.com/chart?pineScriptCodeId=li1pnc2jy8vrv4mi33t2kli9 - Page: https://www.luxalgo.com/library/indicator/ma-of-ma/ **MA of MA** feeds one moving average into another and plots both lines on the price chart, the reference build of the [MA of MA](https://www.luxalgo.com/library/concept/ma-of-ma/) cascade. Each pass picks its own type (SMA, EMA, WMA, RMA, HMA or VWMA) and length, defaulting to an EMA 20 smoothed by a second EMA 20, and a dashboard totals the stack's nominal lag in bars. An optional lag-reduced line turns the same two passes into a DEMA-style fast line instead. ## How to Trade the MA of MA? - **First MA crosses the MA of MA**: the fast line turning through its double-smoothed copy approximates a slope change of the first average, the turn-detector read. - **Source crosses the MA of MA**: price reclaiming or losing the slow baseline is the regime signal, with alerts both ways. - **MA of MA slope flips**: with slope coloring on, the line paints by its own direction and changes state rarely by construction. - **Widening gap**: the gradient fill between the fast series and the baseline deepens as a trend accelerates. Every signal arrives later than its single-average equivalent. That is the deal; check the effective-lag row against your holding period, and compare with the other [trend tools](https://www.luxalgo.com/library/family/trend/). ## MA of MA Settings - **Source** (default close): series fed into the first pass; jagged inputs like volume suit double smoothing. - **First Pass** (default EMA, length 20): the average applied directly to the source. - **Second Pass** (default EMA, length 20): the average applied to the first average rather than to price; the passes may differ in type and length. - **Lag-Reduced Line (2 × MA − MA of MA)** (default off): DEMA-style combination that strips out the bulk of the stacked lag. - **Show Dashboard** (default on), plus Position and Size. - **Style toggles**: Slope Trend Coloring (on), Gradient Fill (First MA ↔ MA of MA) and MA Crossing Markers (off). ## Frequently Asked Questions ### How is the MA of MA different from TRIX? [TRIX](https://www.luxalgo.com/library/indicator/trix/) triple-smooths an EMA, then shows its one-bar rate of change in a separate oscillator pane. This build keeps the smoothed level itself on the price chart, working as a baseline and crossover pair. Reach for TRIX when you want the cascade's slope as a number. ### What do the dashboard's lag figures mean? They are nominal group-delay estimates: an N-period simple average lags price by roughly (N−1)/2 bars, and the two passes' delays roughly sum. The total is exact for simple averages, approximate for recursive types like the EMA. ### Does double smoothing repaint? No. Both passes are causal averages of current and prior bars, so plotted history is final. The trade-off is lag, not repainting: the line confirms turns late, so the First MA crossing alerts watch the faster first-pass line, while the Source crossing alerts track price against the slow baseline. ## Related indicators - [Signal Forge](https://www.luxalgo.com/library/indicator/signal-forge/) (Moving Average Crossovers): markdown at https://www.luxalgo.com/library/indicator/signal-forge.md - [LuxAlgo - Screener (S&O)](https://www.luxalgo.com/library/indicator/luxalgo-screener-s-o/) (Moving Average Crossovers): markdown at https://www.luxalgo.com/library/indicator/luxalgo-screener-s-o.md - [Signal Moving Average](https://www.luxalgo.com/library/indicator/signal-moving-average/) (Moving Average Crossovers): markdown at https://www.luxalgo.com/library/indicator/signal-moving-average.md - [Moving Averages Proximity Oscillator](https://www.luxalgo.com/library/indicator/moving-averages-proximity-oscillator/) (MA Ribbon): markdown at https://www.luxalgo.com/library/indicator/moving-averages-proximity-oscillator.md - [Golden Cross](https://www.luxalgo.com/library/indicator/golden-cross/) (Trend): markdown at https://www.luxalgo.com/library/indicator/golden-cross.md - [FVG Positioning Average](https://www.luxalgo.com/library/indicator/fvg-positioning-average/) (Dynamic S/R Via MA): markdown at https://www.luxalgo.com/library/indicator/fvg-positioning-average.md - [Expanded Cloud](https://www.luxalgo.com/library/indicator/expanded-cloud/) (Dynamic S/R Via MA): markdown at https://www.luxalgo.com/library/indicator/expanded-cloud.md - [MA Sabres](https://www.luxalgo.com/library/indicator/ma-sabres/) (MA Slope Filter): markdown at https://www.luxalgo.com/library/indicator/ma-sabres.md --- Source: https://www.luxalgo.com/library/indicator/ma-of-ma/ (LuxAlgo Library). Free to use with attribution: https://www.luxalgo.com/library/license/