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MAE/MFE Distributions
MAE/MFE Distributions are Performance, Backtesting & Validation concepts. First implementations are in the build queue: the write-up leads, the indicators follow.
What are MAE/MFE distributions?
MAE/MFE distributions describe how far trades move against and in favor of the entry before they close. Maximum adverse excursion (MAE) is the worst intratrade drawdown a position suffered; maximum favorable excursion (MFE) is the best open profit it reached. Collected across a full trade list and plotted as distributions, they reveal the internal anatomy of a strategy that final profit-and-loss numbers hide: how much heat winners typically take, how much open profit losers gave back, and where stops and targets actually bind.
The concepts were popularized by John Sweeney, who proposed analyzing adverse excursion as a rational basis for stop placement. His core observation still drives the analysis: in many systems, eventual winners and eventual losers separate early, with winners rarely dipping far below entry and losers frequently plunging past any reasonable threshold. Where that separation exists, the MAE distribution locates a stop level that cuts losers while sparing most winners.
MFE tells the mirror-image story about exits. A distribution showing losers that regularly reached substantial open profit before closing red points to give-back, and argues for tighter profit-taking or trailing logic. Both excursions are usually normalized, in R-multiples via the R-multiple framework, in percent, or in units of ATR, so trades across instruments and volatility regimes are comparable.
How it's calculated
Excursions are computed per trade from the price extremes recorded while the position was open, then aggregated into distributions.
Values are commonly normalized by initial risk (R), by entry price (percent), or by ATR at entry.
Bar-based backtests only see bar extremes; intrabar path assumptions can distort excursions on coarse timeframes.
How traders use it
- Scatter-plotting MAE against final trade result, with winners and losers marked, to find a stop distance that would have removed a large share of losers at a small cost in sacrificed winners.
- Reading the MFE distribution of losing trades to quantify give-back and decide whether trailing stops, partial exits, or breakeven rules would have captured abandoned open profit.
- Sizing stop distances in volatility units by combining MAE percentiles with ATR-based stop distance logic, rather than picking round numbers.
- Feeding trade management rules, a practice covered under MAE/MFE informed management, where excursion statistics justify moves like tightening stops after a threshold of open profit.
- With the standard caveat that excursion statistics are descriptive of one historical sample; rules tuned tightly to past percentiles inherit all the fragility of any other fitted parameter.
MAE/MFE distributions vs related concepts
MAE/MFE Informed Management: The distributions are the measurement; informed management is the application, turning excursion percentiles into concrete stop, target, and trailing rules. Keeping the two separate avoids circular tuning.
Drawdown Statistics: Drawdown statistics describe the equity curve of the whole account across trades; MAE describes the path within a single open trade. A strategy can have mild per-trade MAE and still build deep portfolio drawdowns through losing streaks.
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MAE/MFE Distributions FAQ
How do I use MAE to set a stop-loss?
Plot MAE for winners and losers separately. If most winners stayed within some excursion while losers exceeded it, a stop near that boundary cuts losses cheaply. If the two distributions overlap heavily, MAE offers no clean stop and the edge may lie elsewhere.
What does a large MFE on losing trades mean?
Trades were meaningfully profitable at some point and gave it back. That pattern argues for examining trailing stops or partial profit-taking, tested properly rather than assumed.
Should excursions be measured in points, percent, or R?
Normalized units, R or ATR multiples, travel best across instruments and volatility regimes. Raw points are only comparable within one instrument and era.
Are backtested excursions reliable?
Only as reliable as the data granularity. On daily bars the true intratrade extremes and their ordering are partly guessed, so intraday data or conservative assumptions are advisable when excursion numbers drive rules.
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