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MAE/MFE-informed Management

MAE/MFE-informed Management is a Risk, Sizing & Exits concept. First implementations are in the build queue: the write-up leads, the indicators follow.

What is MAE/MFE-Informed Management?

MAE/MFE-informed management is the practice of setting stops, targets, and trade-management rules from the measured excursion history of a strategy's own trades. Maximum adverse excursion (MAE) is the worst drawdown a trade suffers between entry and exit; maximum favorable excursion (MFE) is the best open profit it reaches. The analytical framework was developed by John Sweeney, who proposed plotting each trade's MAE and MFE against its final outcome to reveal where stops and targets actually belong.

The core insight is empirical: for many strategies, winning trades rarely go very far against the entry first, while losers keep digging. If the MAE scatter shows that almost no eventual winner exceeded, say, 1.2R of adverse excursion, then a stop meaningfully wider than that pays for losers without saving winners. Symmetrically, if the MFE distribution shows most trades reach 2R of open profit but few close there, the exit rules are donating profit back and a target or tighter trail may capture more of what the strategy already generates.

This turns trade management from opinion into measurement, but it inherits every limitation of backtest evidence. Excursion statistics are sample-dependent, regime-dependent, and easy to overfit: tightening a stop to hug last year's MAE cliff can quietly assume next year's volatility. Practitioners typically normalize excursions in R or ATR units, require a reasonable sample, and re-estimate periodically rather than treating the numbers as fixed truths.

How it's calculated

Excursions are measured per trade between entry and exit, then normalized so trades of different sizes and volatilities are comparable.

MAE = entry_price - lowest_price_during_trade
MFE = highest_price_during_trade - entry_price
MAE_R = MAE / initial_risk_per_unit
MFE_R = MFE / initial_risk_per_unit
entry_price: fill price of the trade
lowest_price_during_trade: lowest traded price between entry and exit (for a long)
highest_price_during_trade: highest traded price between entry and exit (for a long)
initial_risk_per_unit: distance from entry to the initial stop, defining 1R

For short trades, the definitions mirror: MAE uses the highest price against the position and MFE the lowest price in its favor.

Some implementations normalize by ATR at entry instead of initial risk; the choice changes the units, not the concept.

How traders use it

  • Setting stop distance: plot MAE of winners versus losers in R or ATR units and place the stop just beyond the region that contains most eventual winners, often paired with ATR-based stop distance so the level adapts to current volatility.
  • Placing targets: the MFE distribution shows how far the strategy's trades typically run, which anchors realistic targets within a broader profit target taxonomy instead of round-number wishes.
  • Tuning break-even and trailing rules: if trades that reach a given MFE rarely return to the entry, that level is a statistically grounded trigger for break-even moves or the start of a trail.
  • Diagnosing exits: a large persistent gap between average MFE and average realized profit per trade flags exit rules as the weak link, often a more productive fix than searching for new entries.
  • Honest limitation: excursion statistics need a meaningful sample per setup type and shift with volatility regimes, so rules fitted to a calm period tend to get stopped excessively when conditions change.

MAE/MFE-Informed Management vs related concepts

MAE/MFE Distributions: The distributions are the measurement layer: the raw per-trade excursion data and its shape. MAE/MFE-informed management is the decision layer that converts those distributions into concrete stop, target, and trailing rules.

R-Multiple Framework: The R framework expresses outcomes relative to initial risk. Excursion analysis borrows that unit but measures the path of each trade, not just its endpoint, which is what final R-multiples cannot show.

Trailing Method Taxonomy: Trailing taxonomies catalog the mechanisms available for following price. MAE/MFE analysis supplies the evidence for which mechanism and which distance suit a particular strategy's excursion profile.

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MAE/MFE-informed Management FAQ

How many trades do I need before MAE/MFE analysis is trustworthy?

Enough that the pattern is stable across subsamples; many practitioners want at least 50 to 100 trades per setup type, and more if outcomes are highly skewed. Small samples make the scatter look more decisive than it is.

Should MAE and MFE be measured in price, R, or ATR units?

R or ATR units are preferred because they make trades across instruments and volatility regimes comparable. Raw price excursions mix instruments and eras that do not belong on the same plot.

Can MAE analysis tell me the objectively best stop?

No. It shows where past winners and losers separated, which is evidence, not a rule of nature. The distribution shifts with regime, so the stop derived from it should be re-checked periodically and stress-tested.

Is intrabar data required?

Ideally yes, since excursions happen inside bars. Bar-close approximations understate both MAE and MFE, sometimes materially on volatile instruments, so the data granularity should match the holding period.

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